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    Lloyd Honeyghan Is He The Greatest British Welterweight Ever?

    Can you guys give me your views on Lloyd Honeyghan and was he in the top 10 world welterweight champions.
    This is him beating the legend don curry
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bb63pJAzV4

    this is his highlights
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJlk3Cqt6M

    what say you was he in the top 10 welterweights of all time and a raggamuffin?!!
    https://www.thefightcity.com/top-12-...ghters-boxing/
    could he be in this list of top 12 welterweights?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Honeyghan wiki about him,
    Last edited by nathan sturley; 06-04-2023, 08:27 PM.
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    I have not watched the videos yet, but will.

    Off the top of my head, I think Honeyghan lost some of the prestige he gained in stopping Curry, when Curry got pole axed by The Body Snacther McCallum.

    Not fair but sort of how quick legends get made and then forgotten.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by nathan sturley View Post
      Can you guys give me your views on Lloyd Honeyghan and was he in the top 10 world welterweight champions.
      This is him beating the legend don curry
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bb63pJAzV4

      this is his highlights
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJlk3Cqt6M

      what say you was he in the top 10 welterweights of all time and a raggamuffin?!!
      https://www.thefightcity.com/top-12-...ghters-boxing/
      could he be in this list of top 12 welterweights?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Honeyghan wiki about him,
      I saw a lot of Honeyghan's fights.I wouldn't put him at the top of the UK Welters,and certainly not in the top 20 of all time.

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        He has that great win but was too inconsistent overall. Similar to how Turpin has a better win than any other UK middleweight but less overall career success.

        Among UK fighters, I would've said Ted Kid Lewis would be 1st for most people. But boxrec has him 13th. They also have Conor Benn 26th somehow.
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          Ted Kid Lewis certainly. Curry was diminished by drug use, of course. A similar win to J.H. Stacey's over Napoles, who was likewise diminished, but by Age. The Ragamuffin Man was an excellent Welterweight though. Starling was just a little better.
          Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 06-05-2023, 09:32 AM.
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            good points of view here. i recall like i do many 80's big fights and i was made to go to bed and my older brother was allowed to stay up through the night to see it. when i woke he came in screaming "he f***ing beat him Ive won 40 quid"
            I recall these childhood moments so well in boxing alot of fights were in the night as they came from las vegas.
            could some of you name some brits who were better then lloyd?

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              Originally posted by nathan sturley View Post
              good points of view here. i recall like i do many 80's big fights and i was made to go to bed and my older brother was allowed to stay up through the night to see it. when i woke he came in screaming "he f***ing beat him Ive won 40 quid"
              I recall these childhood moments so well in boxing alot of fights were in the night as they came from las vegas.
              could some of you name some brits who were better then lloyd?
              1.Ted "Kid" Lewis, London
              2.Ernie Roderick, Liverpool
              3.Arthur Danahar, London
              4.Lloyd Honeyghan, London
              5.John H Stracey, London
              6.Al Foreman, London
              7.Kell Brook, Sheffield
              8.Peter Waterman, London
              8.George Odwell, London
              10.Eddie Thomas, Merthyr Tydfil
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                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                1.Ted "Kid" Lewis, London
                2.Ernie Roderick, Liverpool
                3.Arthur Danahar, London
                4.Lloyd Honeyghan, London
                5.John H Stracey, London
                6.Al Foreman, London
                7.Kell Brook, Sheffield
                8.Peter Waterman, London
                8.George Odwell, London
                10.Eddie Thomas, Merthyr Tydfil
                thanks i will need to watch these men as i don't know most of them.
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                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                  1.Ted "Kid" Lewis, London
                  2.Ernie Roderick, Liverpool
                  3.Arthur Danahar, London
                  4.Lloyd Honeyghan, London
                  5.John H Stracey, London
                  6.Al Foreman, London
                  7.Kell Brook, Sheffield
                  8.Peter Waterman, London
                  8.George Odwell, London
                  10.Eddie Thomas, Merthyr Tydfil
                  Man, Kell Brook was something.

                  I really hate that "the business of boxing" between Khan & being frozen out of big fights & being basically forced to go up to 160 to fight GGG to get a decent fight, ruined his career.

                  At least he did get some getback against Khan at the end though.
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                    Originally posted by nathan sturley View Post

                    thanks i will need to watch these men as i don't know most of them.
                    This will get you started.

                    Liverpool's highly gifted Ernie Roderick working his perpetual right uppercut on the great Henry Armstrong.

                    https://youtu.be/yYqXLbg5HEc

                    https://www.liverpoolfootprint.co.uk/roderick-e

                    https://youtu.be/BzLdanURLIc

                    Arthur Danahar, The Irish Guardsmen:

                    https://youtu.be/f1irD3FWhfs
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